I need to ask just one double-barreled question. Is there a date out there for me to find
and have you seen it? Because if there is not, I will go with my best calculation. I'm
not going to measure shadows and calculate the rotation of the earth, either. Not
unless there is a 5-pound box of Trinidads to be won.
Trinidads are wonderful chocolates made by Fannie May and no longer available around
here. http://www.fanniemay.com/store/item.asp?item_id=194 Whatever you offer
should be history or genealogy related or maybe a t-shirt with "I Won The Cathay Cup"
on it. I will just have to covet it since I can't come up with the date of the photo. I am
getting quite sick of horses.
You can't find the date on the internet.
Thanks. Couldn't read the books I wanted to on the internet either. So off to the
library I guess. I guess I am a little surprised by this, as I thought all your contests
could be won by internet searching. I know that isn't written down anywhere, but
maybe it should be.
name = Marilyn Hamill
email = email@example.com
phone = Bonus Photo Entry
comments = 1 Shanghai, Hong Kong, Happy Valley Race Course
2 I can't pin down the exact date, but I found a horse born in 1899, so, with the
fashions, etc, I would say 1901-1903
Shanghai Race Club established in 1862
Hong Kong Jockey Club in 1884
New stands built in 1892 http://www.asianracing.org/members/hk.html
Boxer Rebellion of 1900 - no more Manchurian ponies
Burned down in 1918
New buildings in 1933 http://www.thesrc.com/members-board-game/
http://www.ggact.com/auction/detail.php?did=190001&bid=144 in 1880
The book that may contain the answer, China Races by Austin Coates, is not owned by
my library. I found one person on LibraryThing who has it but they did not answer my
email. A query on a racing board did not help, either.
have seen your analysis of the picture so far, and I am impressed. The amount of in
depth research that you have done is amazing. Obviously you have isolated within a
small window the date and location.
I'm sure you are going to crack this - so good luck.
|Bonus Photo #1
|Extra Hard Bonus Photo #1
August 16, 2009
|Suggested by Peter Amsden.
|1. Where was this picture taken?
2. What was the date it was taken?
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2. 5 May 1903
|How Peter Analyzed the Photo
|Shanghai Race Club Tent Cash Sweeps
|OK, Colleen, it is a good one. The present Cathay Cup in horse racing was originally
the Caulfield Cup and was only a 1 mile race (8 furlongs) in 1883 and 1884, so no
It appears the lettering on the tent reads Shanghai Race Club Tent - Cash Sweepstakes,
so was likely a betting tent.
Regarding dating the picture, Edward VII did not become King until 1901 and he died
in 1910. The woman in the foreground appears to be wearing a dress that would have
been fashionable circa 1900-1905, although she is older and might not likely follow the
latest fashion as closely in British colonial outposts. That date coincides with the other
picture I found showing similar track buildings in Hankow and dated circa 1903.
In searching for the race horses, there was a.. an Australian horse named King Edward
sired in 1899 with a likely racing career of seasons 1902-1907, b.. a horse named
Magic bred circa 1895 with a likely racing career of seasons 1898-1903 Still
searching for the jockeys to try to zero in on a date.
Well I didn't realize this would be so tough.
Try this. You can't find the answer on the internet, but you can find someone on the
internet who might know the answer.
Hi, Fellow Quizmaster Peter,
As you see from this chain of communication, I have been struggling mightily with the
extra hard photo quiz. Colleen has suggested that while I won't find the answer on the
internet, I can find someone who knows the answer.
Since you provided the photo, I presume Colleen has steered me to you.So, I am
asking for your help in solving your photo quiz.
I keep being drawn to the woman in the front right of the photo who seems familiar to
me. I am also perplexed as to why there are so few women in the picture since
raceday was usually a grand social event in British society, a tradition that should have
been carried by the British concessioners to the colonial outposts.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you are willing to provide. I hate to give up
Diane R. Burkett
The woman in the picture may be very handsome, but her actual identity is
unimportant to this quiz. Seems that those who have tried to solve this one have mostly
homed in on a date in the early 1900's which is correct. You have established that the
location is China and in the early 1900s.
|Marilyn's Analysis of the Photo
|Diane's Analysis of the Photo